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E22: Joy Division special + Dizzee Rascal audio with Jon Savage

Episode Summary

In this week's episode, Barney Hoskyns and Mark Pringle are joined by Jon Savage to talk about his new Joy Division book This Searing Light, the Sun and Everything Else. Jon tells the story of moving up to Manchester and getting to know the band plus Tony Wilson and Martin Hannett, and speaks about how seeing Joy Division live still haunts him to this day. They then listen to some excerpts from a 2007 audio interview with Dizzee Rascal, in which he and interviewer Maureen Paton take a taxi ride through his old East London haunts. Dizzee tells her about how music has shaped his life, how London knife crime is influenced by skunk and about getting stabbed in Ayia Napa. Mark then highlights a number of interesting articles from the new additions to the library, including pieces on the Yardbirds playing the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond, George Harrison in full 'mystic' mode, a scathing review of David Bowie's 'Young Americans' and Johnny Rotten right after the Sex Pistols split.

Episode Notes

Rock's Backpages ( is the world's only comprehensive archive of music journalism. Every week, Barney Hoskyns and Mark Pringle pick their highlights among the 50+ new pieces added to the database, and present an exclusive excerpt from the week's new audio interview.

Hosted by Barney Hoskyns and Mark Pringle with special guest Jon Savage

Jon Savage's new Joy Division book This Searing Light, the Sun and Everything Else is available now.

Produced by Jasper Murison-Bowie

Pieces discussed: Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures, Joy Division: From Safety to Where?, Martin Hammett interview, David Bowie: The Gender Bender, Fanzines: Pure Pop Art, Jon Savage interview, Dizzee Rascal audio interview, Yardbirds, George Harrison, David Bowie's 'Young Americans', Johnny Rotten, Japan, Mickie Most and Wet Wet Wet